The libraries of the world could not contain all that comes in pursuit of the answer! However, in the current discussion and pursuit of same...something is missing.
Of recent date I engaged with another on the subject of supernatural signs and wonders that are to be normative in the Church. Certainly I agree such is to be so. Further I agree that these things should not be limited to some move of God here or there.
However, there is a concern! In the course of the discussion and to no avail, I referenced what one denominational leader had said some weeks earlier, "The Scriptures provide the river banks within which the Holy Spirit flows." Made sense to me but apparently not to the other in the discussion.
One asks, "What do those river banks look like?" Such is currently under study for me; however, I can say that paramount is the matter of humbly aligning thinking, belief, and one's life with the principles and precepts set forth in the Scriptures. In other words studying in depth God's Word and then applying it in the small and the great arenas of one's life! Applying it even when one does not understand it. Though out of fashion in many congregations the terms we used to use for such things are dedication, sacrifice, repentance, holiness, righteousness, obedience, humility, etc.
Throughout the history of the Church, known and unknown there have been men and women of power who would die rather than bring any kind of reproach upon the message of the Scriptures as lived out in their lives and situations. These are those who humbly live lives above board and who were and are on a constant hunt for a deeper life that aligns more perfectly with the Word of God and the God of the Word.
These are those who clearly understood that to fail ethically while in ministry was not a matter to be taken for granted nor lightly. It was not a matter to be hidden but confessed. It was not a matter to be explained away but prayed through. It was not a matter to be pridefully regretted but of which one humbly repented. It was not a matter to be arrogantly dismissed but submitted to spiritual leaders for such restoration as was possible. Failure certainly lead to forgiveness but also it was understood that it would put blight upon a person's character and ministry. Such seems not to be so today as such things are explained away as being "just" one's fallenness, frailty, and fallibility and that we must forgive and forget and move on.
These were men and women who clearly understood that any part of their lives that was not totally committed to being a follower of Jesus Christ would impede the flow of the Holy Spirit of worship, of love, and of power. They were on a quest for those signs and wonders previously referenced but they understood it all began with one's life being pleasing to God! They understood that such came as one humbled one's self before the Master, Jesus Christ.
These were men and women who clearly understood that one day there would be those who touted their spiritual power and prowess and would hear, "Depart from me, I never knew you." They purposed to not be among that number but to hear, "Well done, good and faithful servant."
These were men and women who clearly understood that in order to have spiritual might in their lives and ministries, their relationship with God had to go beyond citing some promise or another with an "I deserve" almost prideful attitude. Even today in conservative Christianity there are those who make demands of God and propose that they know the will of God. It has gone so far for some that they teach, preach, and counsel that praying; "Never the less not my will but Thine be done" is wrong. I see such praying as deferring to God's decisions and in that being submitted to His will. Wonder what they do with the "Our Father?"
If someone cares to look throughout the pages of Church history, on every continent, in every Christian movement, in every age, there are men and women who lived exemplary lives dedicated to serving God and man. They lived lives of prayer and the Word. They lived lives of confession, submission, and dedication. Often they were thrust against their own druthers into the local, national, and international spotlight. Even so they sought with all of their hearts to be humbly faithful--trustworthy in the eyes of their Lord, Jesus Christ.
These were men and women who clearly understood that one shunned evil and the very appearance of evil. They took seriously the injunction to "...take up your cross daily..." and thus were denigrated by even their fellow Christians. No cost was too great a sacrifice for following Jesus Christ. These are those who chose to sacrifice ease, personal wealth, popularity with the world, position, safety and security, a comfortable future, retirement from service, and much, much more in an eternal cause greater than themselves. They demanded nothing of God and in fact only demanded of themselves in their service. They knew nothing of, "You have to love yourself before you can love others."
Some years ago there was a couple at a major Christian University who though wanting to marry realized that to do so would not be in keeping with God's call upon their lives and so sorrowfully parted. There is another who gave up success, power, position, the possibility of marriage, and even his name to become a follower of Jesus Christ. Indeed to listen to some today is to hear an opposite message. Today's message all too often is, "you deserve." One can only wonder how that squares with, "Seek you first the Kingdom of Heaven and His righteousness..." which is what that couple and that man did.
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How inconsistent these new beliefs, with the lives of people such as the Apostle Paul, martyred by Rome; Thomas Cranmer, burned at the stake; David Brainerd, died at a young age, spent serving the American Indians; Jim Elliot and his 4 friends, martyred while seeking to reach the Auca Indians of South America; John and Betty Stam, martyred by the Chinese Communists; then there are those who occupy the pages of Foxe's Book of Christian Martyrs, and yes, the Christians who are even now being persecuted, enslaved, and dying in places such as Egypt, Africa, China, and Iran.
When you think about the sacrifice of these and others, it leads one to conclude that some of us ought to give up the title "Christian" for its use suggests that we with our easy faith are like they who traveled long and difficult trails of travail. It connects us with these and others who gave so very much. Most of us, it seems to me, are unworthy of such a connection. Indeed as with the closing of the Hebrews 11 list of similar people, the world was not and is not worthy of them. The degree to which the world is in us is the degree to which we are not worthy of them or the name by which they are remembered.
What does it mean to be mighty in faith and power? That too is to be studied but there are some things we can know. This comes of submitting to spiritual disciplines to include the following.
Such comes when one in humility seeks to perfectly aligns his or her life with God's Word through the study of the Bible, through the ministering presence of the Holy Spirit, through prayers of repentance, through humble obedience, and through long seasons of intercessory prayer. It comes of establishing and maintaining the eternal view. It comes with companions in prayer. It comes as one seeks God for strength to do the will of the Lord. It comes of Christian fellowship, and service. It comes of having those to whom one is accountable for word and deed. It comes of failure, confession, and restoration. It comes of selfless obedience. It comes of implicit trust in God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, even when they seem not to make sense.
Alvie, if this is about our conversation, then there are many missing parts. Let me know, as I don't want to assume this is about me, or that I'm the only signs and wonders conversation you've had. There are things you've said here that we're not part of our discussion so I must assume it is another, as I've never heard you offer the "banks of Scripture" quote and I've never intimated that character was not important. Character, God's presence, things spiritual - not temporal, are all part of my theology. I believe that it is Pharisaical to add further boundaries, however, and not pursue the "greater things" out of fear that we might not be capable of doing ALL of the things God desires of an empowered ministry. I will seek the things of which you speak AND faith to truly move a mountain or two, heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers and cast out demons. I will bind the broken hearted and set free those in bondage. If I've somehow not conveyed this, then, well, there it is. If I'm not the guy to whom you're speaking, then the corrective is perhaps justified. However, if I am, then perhaps I should offer the return admonishment that faith is both-and, not either-or. We ought not deny prophecy just to protect ourselves from possible error. One who rightly divides the word ought to be capable of doing all things through Christ while steering through the trouble spots. Otherwise, we might also face the Master having only the talent we buried in fear to offer back to Him... Blessings, brother.
ReplyDeleteIf your initials are CB then I suggest discourse by email or perhaps fb message. Not in a public forum.
DeleteWe could always do coffee... I'm willing. And sorry, I thought my name came through on the comment. This is Chris.
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